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    Guide to sending Multiple Waved Attacks
    *Note: Most pictures are courtesy of dragon115 of the .uk froums*


    Many new players are shocked when they see multiple attacks landing on them at the same second. They will many times call this "scripting" and say it's a bot. However, in most cases it isn't, and is actually just a player using one of the methods to send multiple waves. In this guide I will go over the 3 methods:

    Multiple Windows
    Multiple Tabs and Ctrl + Tab
    Multiple Tabs and Offline Browsing

    All 3 methods start out the same:

    1. Select the village you want to attack:


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    Then from here you can either:

    1. Ctrl + W to open multiple windows
    or
    2. Ctrl + T to open multiple tabs

    Personally I prefer the tab methods. They are not only faster to set up but easier to set up. They also allow you to send more waves quicker in my opinion. So I'm not going to really put much effort into showing pictures for that. The only difference between tabs and waves is with tabs you just make the tabs, set up the attacks, and send. Using windows you need to make the windows, set up the attacks, then make the screen small so only the "OK" button shows and put them all next to one another so you can move from left to right in rapid succession to send the waves.

    So instead I'm going to continue to give the basic steps for the 2 Tab methods:

    2. Once you have chosen the village you are sending to and have opened enough tabs equivalent to how many waves you want to send. Then set up the attacks like normal in every tab and click "OK":



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    Note: When setting up waves keep in mind that you can only send as many troops as you actually have. So when you have, for example, 10,000 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, and 1000 catas, you would probably send a small escort with each cata wave. Say you're hitting a capital and are putting 250 catas per wave. That means you will have 4 waves. I normally send 50-100 infantry as escorts, so your waves, in my example here, will look like this:

    Wave 1: 9850 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, 250 catas
    Wave 2: 50 imperians, 250 catas
    Wave 3: 50 imperians, 250 catas
    Wave 4: 50 imperians, 250 catas

    Sometimes when using the Tab methods you will click extremely fast and so you may have random troops being sent out by mistake. Why? This is because from clicking so fast the server sometimes registers 1 tab as 2 clicks because you as a person is just trying to cycle through the tabs as fast as possible and hit "OK" as many times as possible to send your waves close together. Make sure that if this happens to call those lone troops back - you wouldn't want 50 imperians randomly dying or some stray catas being sent out due to such a mistake.

    Now, for the next steps after setting up your waves:

    3a. If you are using the Ctrl + Tab method, then once your attacks are set up use Ctrl + Tab and click "OK" as fast as possible to get your troops sent out in as close of waves as possible.

    3b. If you are using the Offline Browsing Tab method, then on the confirm screen, open the file menu and select



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    4. Click "OK" on all tabs once again and you will get this error:



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    5. Go back to "File" and uncheck "Work Offline" to connect Firefox to the internet again:



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    6. Right-click on the TAB bar and select "reload all tabs":



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    7. You will get this error; just hold down enter on your keyboard:



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    8. All your attacks within one second:



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    Yes, that is 21 attacks in a single second from using the Offline Browsing method.

    Hope this guide will help all players become a better player by teaching them the methods for sending multiple waves.

    Additionally you could also watch this video, made by my friend 6eccmeptho, which showcases how he does the offline broswer method:
    http://img190.imageshack.us/i/wavescapture.mp4/

    It's only 10 waves/second, but can give you somewhat of an idea. It's rare to get 20+ waves, but it is possible. As sometimes your internet spikes and actually works very well once in a while, so it's not a constant thing. He's also a better player than me, so just throwing that out there (he made me say that). ^^

    To also answer any questions about why some people cannot do the offline method well while others can:

    There is a multitude of possible problems. Sometimes, as I've said above, it's connectivity issues. But other times it's the operating system where the OS is simply slow. It could also be a network card buffer size difference - in this case it will show a page saying "page cannot be displayed." (Phanttis's addition to this)

    Also, if the connection route to the server is long the requests will not arrive at same time, so you might have 4 waves 1 second, 10 another, 5 another, etc. There are many other reasons, and I do not know all reasons personally. But simply put, everyone's wave sending will be different when you use the offline method because everyone has a different connection, computer, etc, and the internet connection isn't steady 100% of the time - it fluctuates. So you may only be able do to 3 waves per second while another can do 21 per second. Doesn't mean either of you are better players of cheaters, but simply you have different computer and internet set ups.

    I hope that will answer all questions and finalize this guide.

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    BlackPaladin
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    heh, in regards to hot key might want to refer to which browser you use.

    For Explorer (iE7), Ctrl+W closes the tab, or window if theres only one tab.

    Its Ctrl+N, for new window.



    Also I'm not sure why you are telling people to use those short cuts, since they just open new empty tabs/windows.

    What they should be doing Ctrl+left click the link that leads to the send troop screen, for additional tabs, or right click the link and click open new window.


    Anyone enough of teaching newbs, let me get back to cutting their bad sends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baghernia View Post
    heh, in regards to hot key might want to refer to which browser you use.

    For Explorer (iE7), Ctrl+W closes the tab, or window if theres only one tab.

    Its Ctrl+N, for new window.



    Also I'm not sure why you are telling people to use those short cuts, since they just open new empty tabs/windows.

    What they should be doing Ctrl+left click the link that leads to the send troop screen, for additional tabs, or right click the link and click open new window.


    Anyone enough of teaching newbs, let me get back to cutting their bad sends.
    Well, in the guide firefox is used. But yes, you could use Ctrl+W in IE too, although for tabs I prefer anything but IE. :P

    And also yes, it is easier to use Ctrl+left clicking. That's another way to open tabs a lot faster. The actual video uses Ctrl+left clicking to make the tabs fast.
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    Mediocre guide that doesn't improve significantly on Dragon's, but thank you for contributing to the forums. I am sure some newer players will really appreciate this.

    I'm rather surprised that there wasn't already a guide to offline sendings on this forum. I suppose I should have expected it, as most top players only want to educate those playing on their own side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPaladin View Post
    Note: When setting up waves keep in mind that you can only send as many troops as you actually have. So when you have, for example, 10,000 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, and 1000 catas, you would probably send a small escort with each cata wave. Say you're hitting a capital and are putting 250 catas per wave. That means you will have 4 waves. I normally send 50-100 infantry as escorts, so your waves, in my example here, will look like this:

    Wave 1: 9850 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, 250 catas
    Wave 2: 50 imperians, 250 catas
    Wave 3: 50 imperians, 250 catas
    Wave 4: 50 imperians, 250 catas
    This is my number one pet peeve.
    What do you think you are gaining by sending 50 imperians with your cat waves?
    250 level 20 cats is 31175 attack, 50 imperians adds only 4345 more. Do you really think that extra 14% attack is going to matter? If your waves end up spread over 2 seconds, and your target cuts, the 50 imperians are not likely to save you. If your waves all end up in the same second, you wasted 150 imperians that could have been in your clear.
    While I am critiquing, putting a full set of cats in your clear is also a waste. You expect to encounter resistance, and thus you expect to lose part of your clear. If you put a full set of cats in the clear, you are going to lose some of them, so they won't fire at full strength.
    I would set this attack up one of 2 ways:
    Wave 1: 10000 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, 20 catas (split between mill and bakery)...some people prefer to just put a single cat here
    Wave 2: 250 catas
    Wave 3: 250 catas
    Wave 4: 250 catas
    Wave 5: 230 catas

    Or (if I don't think I can get all the waves in the same second):
    Wave 1: 9000 imperians, 2500 EC, 500 rams, 20 catas
    Wave 2: 250 catas
    Wave 3: 250 catas
    Wave 4: 1000 imperians, 250 catas
    Wave 5: 230 catas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelldroth View Post
    Mediocre guide that doesn't improve significantly on Dragon's, but thank you for contributing to the forums. I am sure some newer players will really appreciate this.

    I'm rather surprised that there wasn't already a guide to offline sendings on this forum. I suppose I should have expected it, as most top players only want to educate those playing on their own side.

    The less people know the better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tineren View Post
    What do you think you are gaining by sending 50 imperians with your cat waves?
    ^this.

    I will send mini escorts when I know the residence/palace is likely to still be standing. But I make sure to exceed the number of cats with escort troops (so 100 cats escorted by 150 imps) so that the single troop killed by the resid is an escort troop, not a cat.

    There's no other purpose to send that small of an escort.

    If you feel there will be a snipe, then you need a fairly significant secondary clear as Tineren mentioned.
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    Since this guide is for noobs, I think it should be worth noting that when using the offline method, I have found and from what I hear from others too is that the first wave most of the time ends up being in its own second, then the next bunch of waves that follow will be same second waves.

    So I always put a fake in the first wave, followed by the clear and then cat waves. You can recall that fake back but I like to keep it in the attacks, let the enemy think they can cut after your "clear" which is really just your fake.

    But of course you should always go to the rally point immediately after sending the attacks and check to see everything is ok, recall all the waves if it is not. Once in a while I get cat waves that launch ahead of my clear, or my internet or PC lagged and I didn't get as many waves in same second as I would like, practice reinforcing yourself with multi waves beforehand.

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    Okay, just for some clarification:

    Firstly, when this guide was first written (I didn't really edit it much at all from the original) the offline browsing method was new and this was one of the only guides out there at the time about it. I was just transferring it over to .us, from where it originally was made in .com. When I tried to edit it the mods and I found we couldn't edit it because of too many pics, and by getting rid of the pics then the guide isn't as....guide-like? :P

    The example given with 50 escorts and 250 catas was a random example made up, and not what you should actually do. It's just there to show that in waves, you do "escorts (possibly) + catas." There are guides on attacking - read those if you want to learn how to attack. This is just to show new players the technique being multiple waves. You do not actually put 50 escorts with 250 catas, because firstly, who uses 250 catas in an attack if it's not vs a capital? And secondly, that's a waste. When you croplock a village, generally to kill croplands I send just 30 catas, although at this point it would matter if they had the increased building durability artefact or were a lot smaller. But this guide was never meant to go over how to attack, but only to show how to use the offline/tab methods.

    Sending escorts is a preference between players (depending on population you could lose 1 escort instead of 1 cata in the preceeding waves, and I had a friend who was obsessed over that ;p). I prefer no escorts because it's easier to set up, and I'd rather have the 30 or so more toops in the cleaner. So I suggest no escorts, but it doesn't mean it's a horrible thing to do. 30 troops when you're dealing with thousands won't make much difference.

    When sending the waves, normally it's best to test it out a few times first by just setting up a waved reinforcement on your own villages. It can help to show you how your own waves tend to work, like if there is a second gap anywhere. Everyone's internet/computer setup is different so going off what someone else says to you on that part is worthless. YOUR internet and computer is what matters, so your own waves will be different from another persons. So check how your own waves send, and don't worry about how another person's waves send.

    After testing how your waves work for you, you can add extra fake waves here and there (just 1 cata) and cancel them where needed so you can set up secondary cleaners, etc etc if your computer always gives you a 1 second gap somewhere.

    Also, make sure to set your keyboard's repeat rate to fast so when you hold down enter it will repeat faster.
    Last edited by BlackPaladin; 07-18-2010 at 03:53 AM.
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