NoFx's biased view of the quads round 2

[NoFx]

The NE

The NE looks slightly more interesting now then it did before, MGD seems to continue to fight for fun and against mass odds which should easily best them.


MGD - What can you say, for 54 players they sure kick a lot of ***. Fairly organized the numbers are questions but I can see them finding a new wing or confed to jump onto sometime soon. I'd like to see them tested against players their size but I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Any alliance that has Juicy and Mememe in it that survives over a month is stable in my books.

Easy/Fox Co - The other guys, Easy and Fox co seem to have their **** together not lots of drama though their offensive capabilities have yet to be truly showcased they continue to take advantage of their size by attacking sporadic locations. The Co's seem to think they're on par with MGD skill wise I really have yet to see anything that proves that. I'd love to see them actually hit someone who matters.

MosTLy - The other guys wife, MosTLy is like a slightly more watered down version of Easy Co, much like their husbands they can organize defenses but I've still yet to be wow'd on the offense. Infact I'm not even aware of you attacking anything.


Obviously with nearly 4:1 odds against MGD you have an obvious leg up, I'm just in utter shock how you continue to get your villages chiefed and seem to have no real retaliation to show for it.


The SE

Much like the NE you have 3 major "powers" Thaco, TW and MBTC. From what I hear you've entered a NAP like peace treaty? While I laugh at such ideas it's been a rocky road for the SE. If I had to gauge SE's overall ability to compete I'd say they have the most players who "don't suck" but they still don't have the best players.

Thaco - Obviously the front runners, shame on you for taking your foot off the pedal, you've got a lot better communication than MBTC but no one really stands out as the one leading the way. Thaco's probably more known for having every single last reply on the public forum they still seem to lack an organizational attack as I've seen from MBTC from time to time.

MBTC - You have a lot of wings, and you seem to be running short on your ability to manage them, I think your top players are on par if not better than Thaco's best but your average skill level is immensely lower than theres. You need someone to get the little guys into shape and quickly. Recently you've agreed to a cease fire, personally I can see why. Regroup, recover, don't forget that these are the same players who attempted to attack you during your last "Cease Fire".

TW - You should be ashamed at yourself and your mediocrity.

Overall I think of the SE consolidates into one mass meta it'll make a chain reaction you'll see other quads solidify out of necessity which will lead to a long boring server.


The NW

UIA went from the gang bang'er to the gang bangee, with 4 top 10 wings I can see why other alliances would band together against you, though I question your participation if even with 200 6k pop+ players you haven't been more effective in your war efforts.


UIA - This was actually tough to gage since I think DOL has a great spirit and attitude, you can tell their players are pulling their weight simply by how you speak of them. I know UIA has their hands full they're skirmishing with many alliances and even though they say their recruiting is "Very, Very, selective" I can tell you that's a load of ****. I see some UIA members stretching to other quads, and I question the tactics or the direction the alliance is taking. You're compiling a list of enemies much quicker then I think you've anticipated, I'd watch yourself because as CD has shown, it's a quick fall from top to bottom.

SHFGH or Sovereign Hands of God - First what the hell is with your name S for Sovereign, H for.... Hands? then F for... of? and GH for God? I don't get it your name is lame. The only reason I'd value you more than Dol is your numbers and the fact you were bright enough to align yourself with them. I can't even name one of your players off the top of my head, Sweet ASCII Shield, you earn huge props in my books for that. There is so much lacking from this alliance that I'm honestly shocked you're still here, though somehow should it be your own great work or the fact that UIA seems to be targeting DOL rather then you continue to survive.

DoL - MGD lite. You seem to be making progress and doing much better now that you have a few allies to help you out, unlike MGD I don't see you overcoming any numbers disadvantage anytime soon, for every step forward you seem to take you get knocked back and thats no way to progress in this game, I like how fearless you are attacking though you've already got punched in the teeth predictability, a rat, whichever the reason you've got a lot of work to go before you become a true powerhouse. I think you have a lot of room for improvement, but if I had to pick a NW alliance that I thought was capable of that, DoL would be my choice without question.

The NW's utter hate for each other makes for a fun round of conflict, personally I think the NW is the most interesting quad, possibly because they waited so long to even join any side in conflict, UIA's attitude has banded together all their enemies much like CD accomplished at a server wide scale. If I were a better man I'd put it on SHFGH and DoL, I like UIA more but I
don't see them making the steps that are needed to be a true dominant force in the NW.

The SW!

The SW is pretty boring to be honest, Nemesis post CD merger have been tying up loose ends, watching people scramble and while personally it seems detrimental to the goal of "winning at end game" I find it much more fun then sim city and peace treaty bull****. Scourge and Dark have cut ties, for whichever reasons failed leadership, annoying members, something to do. Likely more the latter then people will admit to. I expect the SW once it's finished it's current skirmish to open cross quad as I don't see anyone having the attention span to keep playing if there isn't something interesting happening.

Nemesis - Come on, you knew it was coming. I doubt many could argue at this stage there is two trains of thought in travian. Nemesis, MGD, DoL all share one, you're only as strong as your weakest member, while quality is without question highest in these alliances numbers do play a huge role in this game and for any of these alliances to achieve anything they will need the help of a plethora alliances.

Scourge - The obvious number two, with CD falling both Scourge and Nemesis have taken in many very good players and hit the ground running, while scourge has expanded to a second wing they continue to fight with Dark2 who have since fallen off the map. Some skirmishes with UIA have started which makes me wonder how strong willed some players are but huge strides are being made in hopes of increased organization. With CD gone you really have no one in the SW who is even capable of putting up a fight so it's very hard for you to improve.

Dark1, JustUs, Orphans - While I don't see a ton of improvement from a strategic standpoint I've come to understand that your type of player is more the passive we'll be here until the end we're ready to support which every alliance needs as the back bone to WW efforts. You need to put a lot more effort into organizing yourself offensively if you hope to do anything in the future. You have the advantage of being content not making moves and pressuring enemies, I expect you'll lose some membership due to boredom but not nearly as many as Scourge or Nemesis would.

Shadow - I give you a week.

@The300 - Week and a half.

@Dragon - Two weeks.

The SW seem more cata happy then every other quad, possibly because most major conflict is behind them, the only CD group to completely collapse and not reform or join the same alliance. The SW took a major blow when all of this happened as they lost a ton of capable players to deletion, time will tell how much this harms their chances of winning it all.

Overall Rankings:
(If all the alliances were standing on a field getting picked this would be my order for who would be the most useful offensively, defensively, and reliability wise.)

1.Nemesis
2.MGD
3.Thaco
4.UIA
5.MTBS
6.Easy/Fox Co.
7.Scourge
8.SHFGH
9.DOL
10.Mostly
11.Dark1, Justus, Orphans
12.TW

[Baron D'Holbach]

Well you got it wrong in the SE on at least one account: It was MBTC that broke the NAP when we had one early game. They attacked when we began to entertain CD. Other than that (and the shame you seem to heap on the SE) you got it pretty much right; it is biased. Better than nothing though. Thanks!

[FIDGAF]

Wow... What a Biased review....

[NoFx]

Originally Posted by Baron D'Holbach Well you got it wrong in the SE on at least one account: It was MBTC that broke the NAP when we had one early game. They attacked when we began to entertain CD. Other than that (and the shame you seem to heap on the SE) you got it pretty much right; it is biased. Better than nothing though. Thanks!

I was talking about post CD merger when you had a big plan to nap with them and attack them, they somehow got wind of it and didn't do it.

[thereter]

MBTC broke the NAP last time.

Love the analysis though! Bias or not.

[Lord Of The Gummy Bears]

I hear NOFX pees sitting down

[Cleatus]

Biased? Obviously. But not wrong. Good review. I'd rep you if I could.

[Ideruu]

UIA went from the gang bang'er to the gang bangee, with 4 top 10 wings I can see why other alliances would band together against you, though I question your participation if even with 200 6k pop+ players you haven't been more effective in your war efforts.

UIA [/B]- This was actually tough to gauge since I think DOL has a great spirit and attitude, you can tell their players are pulling their weight simply by how you speak of them. I know UIA has their hands full they're skirmishing with many alliances and even though they say their recruiting is "Very, Very, selective" I can tell you that's a load of ****. I see some UIA members stretching to other quads, and I question the tactics or the direction the alliance is taking. You're compiling a list of enemies much quicker then I think you've anticipated, I'd watch yourself because as CD has shown, it's a quick fall from top to bottom.

The NW's utter hate for each other makes for a fun round of conflict, personally I think the NW is the most interesting quad, possibly because they waited so long to even join any side in conflict, UIA's attitude has banded together all their enemies much like CD accomplished at a server wide scale. If I were a better man I'd put it on SHFGH and DoL, I like UIA more but I
don't see them making the steps that are needed to be a true dominant force in the NW.

I actually wish we had 200 6k+ players but we don't. Just an overestimation. Our war efforts are going unseen because the results are in deletions and being shoved under the rug.
An interesting view but a little incorrect based on facts. UIA IS the dominant force in the NW. Sure there is potential opposition, but we are locking down are quad quick. As for stretching to other quads, I've heard of one incident but that's it. But I agree we should not be so overconfident as to make the same mistakes as CD did.

Oh and I've made this mistake plenty of times buts its SHGFG. Nonetheless a crappy name.

[thereter]

Originally Posted by Ideruu UIA went from the gang bang'er to the gang bangee, with 4 top 10 wings I can see why other alliances would band together against you, though I question your participation if even with 200 6k pop+ players you haven't been more effective in your war efforts. UIA [/B]- This was actually tough to gauge since I think DOL has a great spirit and attitude, you can tell their players are pulling their weight simply by how you speak of them. I know UIA has their hands full they're skirmishing with many alliances and even though they say their recruiting is "Very, Very, selective" I can tell you that's a load of ****. I see some UIA members stretching to other quads, and I question the tactics or the direction the alliance is taking. You're compiling a list of enemies much quicker then I think you've anticipated, I'd watch yourself because as CD has shown, it's a quick fall from top to bottom. The NW's utter hate for each other makes for a fun round of conflict, personally I think the NW is the most interesting quad, possibly because they waited so long to even join any side in conflict, UIA's attitude has banded together all their enemies much like CD accomplished at a server wide scale. If I were a better man I'd put it on SHFGH and DoL, I like UIA more but I don't see them making the steps that are needed to be a true dominant force in the NW. I actually wish we had 200 6k+ players but we don't. Just an overestimation. Our war efforts are going unseen because the results are in deletions and being shoved under the rug. An interesting view but a little incorrect based on facts. UIA IS the dominant force in the NW. Sure there is potential opposition, but we are locking down are quad quick. As for stretching to other quads, I've heard of one incident but that's it. But I agree we should not be so overconfident as to make the same mistakes as CD did. Oh and I've made this mistake plenty of times buts its SHGFG. Nonetheless a crappy name.

Did you just copy and paste what he said? Because I can't tell what YOU are saying.

[silvereye]

NoFX thanks for the effort. But I believe your influence is inaccurate.

DOL current attack power = 3, most there hammers are currently rebuilding, Lazz and Porkins should be back at 3-5k at this point if they've been running them constantly. Starfury has exited the game which was too bad as I enjoyed competiting with her.
DOL current defense power = unknown, we haven't really focused on them that much. If they think we have they are mistaken.

SGHFG is broken. They are basically UIA rag-doll. They have 2 people they have managed to harass, and its a proximity issue. However, their leadership has basically gone downhill. There strongest asset was coordinated defenses whch has been eradicated from their practices.

What will happen is SGHFG will end up crumpling DOL will pick up some survivors, I am sure UIA will add a couple as well. The majority of them will brand themselves another image hoping to escape from undernearth the terror.


Don't let me suggest that we(UIA) over the last few weeks didnt take damage, but we are by far and away leading the race up there.


DOL gets kudos for keeping us entertained, without them we would likely fall asleep.
SGHFG gets kudos for bringing 15+ UIA attackers into the top 60 all time. For those tough on math concepts that 25% of the top 60 attackers on the server belong to us.

There are some interesting upstarts in the NW as well, they are really out of UIA dominated areas that may have a long-term chance at a local domination.