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    Pure capitalism certainly doesn't. It cares for no one. That's why most people abandon the pure capitalist ideologies for welfarism. Of course, only fully automated luxory gay space communism is sufficient to meet all our moral and economic needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Pure capitalism certainly doesn't. It cares for no one. That's why most people abandon the pure capitalist ideologies for welfarism. Of course, only fully automated luxory gay space communism is sufficient to meet all our moral and economic needs.
    Pure capitalism and socialism in one cup -in different concentration- mix well, then you might get a good system.

    having a society of one class is bad. having a society with huge differences among classes is terrible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by н-υ-п-т-ε-я View Post
    Pure capitalism and socialism in one cup -in different concentration- mix well, then you might get a good system.

    having a society of one class is bad. having a society with huge differences among classes is terrible!
    Except that by most measures of happiness, the closer the classes get, the happier people are. It's not the system that makes socialism not work, it's the way it's implemented. If it's done democratically instead of imposed, all good. This is bit I don't get. In Sweden the doctors are paid more, but not by a huge amount. They still have doctors, a far better health system than the US, just not the great chasm between rich and poor. And it's cold up there, so it 'aint the weather making them happy. The US has more unhappy people. Rich and poor. Sicker too. Hard to pick the better system? Not really.
    I'm glad I'm not judgemental like all you smug, superficial idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    doesn't do the same thing as enslave healthcare providers
    I love how you both unironically use the word wage slavery and make fun of how absurd wage slavery claims are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by н-υ-п-т-ε-я View Post
    even if the doctor wanted to help a poor for free, would the hospital allow it!
    They are required to allow it actually. Hospitals are forbidden from turning anyone away for lack of income in the US due to a Reagan era rule forbidding the practice.

    Some would call that slavery, and it's closer to it that simply considering healthcare to be a human right. Which is exactly what it is, kind of hard to enjoy life liberty and the pursuit of happiness when you're dying of an easily curable disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirveri View Post
    kind of hard to enjoy life liberty and the pursuit of happiness when you're dying of an easily curable disease.
    Easier to pay for that if you are not having your labor stolen from you for laboring.

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