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    So, I read a number of articles today on Time, Forbes, and Psychology today about how forum and internet trolls are sadists and psychopaths. We have many who claim to be the best at trolling here in our little S1 world. Discuss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    forum and internet trolls are sadists
    I don't mind getting spanked.

    Anything else from the land of amateur diagnosticians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    I don't mind getting spanked.
    That would be a masochist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    That would be a masochist
    Which means not a sadist. Which was the main point, there. Now that I've spelt that out for you, do you have anything else I can help you with? I have a few diagrams on how to tie your shoes, if that's hindering your morning routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    Which means not a sadist. Which was the main point, there. Now that I've spelt that out for you, do you have anything else I can help you with? I have a few diagrams on how to tie your shoes, if that's hindering your morning routine.
    I seem to have struck a nerve

    edit: and can you not be both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    I seem to have struck a nerve
    Not at all. I would just think that someone that seems capable of writing in decent English would also be capable of picking up on the obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    edit: and can you not be both?
    If you're what is called a "switch," but that's a very rare psychological thing. We're talking about < schizoid personality rare. So...I guess if you want to be really crazy in your amateur antics, then sure, let's go with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    So...I guess if you want to be really crazy in your amateur antics,
    You act as though I wrote the articles.

    I am not a psychologist, so yes, it would be amateur if I wrote them, BUT I didn't. Rather than attack my intelligence, refute the claim.

    Also, sadomasochism...

    Edit: for the record, I'm not saying anyone is. I'm saying article X said this, you claim to be this, discuss.
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    I've been known to swing the hammer around

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    You need to look at the reasons and what the person is getting out of trolling. If you're talking Gamergate, or those people who post **** and death threats about people they disagree with of feel threatened by, yes, there is likely sone serious emotional or psychological issue at work.

    Most of the folks we call trolls here are not nearly as bad as trolls out in the wilder and less regulated areas of the Internet. And as I pointed out elsewhere, many of the ones who post in the server embassies do so for strategic reasons. Their goal is not to injure, and they don't take pleasure in causing pain. Their goal is to confuse, misdirect, sow doubt or discontent, and sometines to provoke unwise action.

    I am in the position of having seen how some of the most noted embassy trolls behave elsewhere on the Internet. They don't troll anywhere but here.

    That said, if you wander down to the GenChat, you might find a few examples that fit your suggestion a little more closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    You act as though I wrote the articles.

    I am not a psychologist, so yes, it would be amateur if I wrote them, BUT I didn't. Rather than attack my intelligence, refute the claim.
    I have to spell this one out for you too?

    As I said in my first post in this thread, you seem to be playing the amateur diagnostician. Meaning, an attempt to apply these labels to people you've never met.

    Which also means you've never likely seen examples of real trolling. In my 8 years here, 3 of those as staff, I've never seen a situation resembling a Jessi Slaughter thing, never witnessed anyone kill or hurt themselves, etc. There was one person who might've gotten close to doing so but she was very rarely the target of trolling and there were very few people around during the time that were not trolled by her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meherrin View Post
    many of the ones who post in the server embassies do so for strategic reasons.
    Me! Me! Me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Meherrin View Post
    Their goal is not to injure, and they don't take pleasure in causing pain.
    Well I do get a little pleasure from making Lulu squirm and responding to GONE`s Skype in real time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meherrin View Post
    Their goal is to confuse, misdirect, sow doubt or discontent, and sometines to provoke unwise action.
    Most definitely me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meherrin View Post

    I am in the position of having seen how some of the most noted embassy trolls behave elsewhere on the Internet. They don't troll anywhere but here.
    Thank you. You actually gave a great example refuting the claim without merely saying, "No, I'm not! You're stupid!"

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    Me! Me! Me!



    Well I do get a little pleasure from making Lulu squirm and responding to GONE`s Skype in real time.



    Most definitely me!
    This does not surprise me one bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    If you're what is called a "switch"
    We are not at all rare. Most people are more fixated on the pleasure pain part and don't really care which role they play. I've not met many that don't enjoy both roles.

    That said, I prefer humiliation to pain.

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    We are not really trolls here. We are propagandaists.

    Some people are better than others at this however. Making the leader of the opposition look like a fool is important in game play. As I have already mentioned, more people read this silly forum than most people appreciate and verbally trouncing people is important.

    I have lost count of the amount of people who have contacted me here to offer their info. Purely because they have seen that I have a sense of humour and their leaders don't. Or because they see that the internal propaganda is a load of crap.

    You underestimate the power of the forum.

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    Kurtz nailed it. The forums can be just as powerful a tool as a hammer or anvil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
    We are not really trolls here. We are propagandaists.



    You underestimate the power of the forum.
    Accurate.

    And no, I don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    I don't mind getting spanked.
    And I thought BTDT's mom was a ficticious person. My apologies Mrs. BTDT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilAnse View Post
    And I thought BTDT's mom was a ficticious person. My apologies Mrs. BTDT.
    Oh, you gonna spank me? Let's see what happens when a GONE hammer runs up against a Lego hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    Oh, you gonna spank me? Let's see what happens when a GONE hammer runs up against a Lego hammer.
    I'm good, but thanks for offering. I'm just sitting here simming and awaiting the inevitable splat-fest 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilAnse View Post
    I'm good, but thanks for offering. I'm just sitting here simming and awaiting the inevitable splat-fest 2017.
    Well....there are other kinds of spankings you could give me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilAnse View Post
    I'm just sitting hereawaiting the inevitable splat-fest 2017.
    Hey you alright in there, brother? I just checked the bottle and it says it can take up to 4-6 hours to work but if that doesn't work the GONE pharmacy is open 24/7. If you want me to run down there for you I can, just make sure to let the landscapers in when they get here so they can finish mulching the crannies out back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
    We are not really trolls here. We are propagandaists.
    My old account name was Demagogue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lurk View Post
    Let's see what happens when a GONE hammer runs up against a Lego hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    Accurate.

    And no, I don't
    If I ever see you complaining about getting trolled... you will get this back.

    Actually you won't. Mostly cause I won't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bane View Post
    My old account name was Demagogue.
    Is that meant to mean something to me?

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    No. Why did a Demagogue account farm you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bane View Post
    No. Why did a Demagogue account farm you?
    No one has ever farmed me.

    Actually that's not quite true. My first account ever got farmed after I took over another account. But I didn't have access to it at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    So, I read a number of articles today on Time, Forbes, and Psychology today about how forum and internet trolls are sadists and psychopaths. We have many who claim to be the best at trolling here in our little S1 world. Discuss?
    You actually spent time looking this up? Wow.

    I'm crazy, but I don't think I'm a sadist or psychopath. And I never claimed to be one of the best trollers. In fact, I've been told many times I suck at it. But when I DO manage it, (and I put in my best effort) I have to thank the original best trolls, since they taught me. Hence my signature. It's a lofty goal, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisalpine View Post
    You actually spent time looking this up? Wow.

    I'm crazy, but I don't think I'm a sadist or psychopath. And I never claimed to be one of the best trollers. In fact, I've been told many times I suck at it. But when I DO manage it, (and I put in my best effort) I have to thank the original best trolls, since they taught me. Hence my signature. It's a lofty goal, I know.
    None of us are real trolls. Thankfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nichmanic View Post
    Hey you alright in there, brother? I just checked the bottle and it says it can take up to 4-6 hours to work but if that doesn't work the GONE pharmacy is open 24/7. If you want me to run down there for you I can, just make sure to let the landscapers in when they get here so they can finish mulching the crannies out back.
    Is that available in liquid form?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
    You underestimate the power of the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odinloki View Post
    Awww... Love you too man..!
    You farmed me? While I was vaguely active?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
    You farmed me? While I was vaguely active?
    I think it was a chiefed villa that was on a raid list lol..
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    Storeythor,most offensive/defensive account holder on the server.
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    He's a nut and the more the odds are stacked against him, the better he seems to come out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisalpine View Post
    You actually spent time looking this up? Wow.

    I'm crazy, but I don't think I'm a sadist or psychopath. And I never claimed to be one of the best trollers. In fact, I've been told many times I suck at it. But when I DO manage it, (and I put in my best effort) I have to thank the original best trolls, since they taught me. Hence my signature. It's a lofty goal, I know.
    Psychology interests me. Call it a weird hobby. I suck at it too. At least we can admit we suck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
    If I ever see you complaining about getting trolled... you will get this back.

    Actually you won't. Mostly cause I won't bother.
    My skin has thickened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pile of Pandas View Post
    At least we can admit we suck?
    I admit no such thing. I'm like an apex predator. The pinnacle of Travian evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bane View Post
    I admit no such thing. I'm like an apex predator. The pinnacle of Travian evolution.
    The, "we" was not all inclusive.

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    I suck at this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    I suck at this game.
    We know, you're the reason I have to struggle with a %50 cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbstokem View Post
    We know, you're the reason I have to struggle with a %50 cap.
    Hey, it could be worse -- we could have a lot of early game drama over a shoddy 50% wheat cap!

    Although given the quality of the drama currently, I have to say, that drama was positively excellent by comparison, both in terms of hilarity and good fun.
    "The Universe speaks in many languages, but only one voice... It is the voice of our ancestors, speaking through us, and the voice of our inheritors, waiting to be born. It is the small, still voice that says: we are one. No matter the blood. No matter the skin. No matter the world. No matter the star. We are one. No matter the pain. No matter the darkness. No matter the loss. No matter the fear. We are one. Here, gathered together in common cause, we agree to recognise this singular truth and this singular rule: that we must be kind to one another. Because, each voice enriches us and ennobles us and each voice lost diminishes us. We are the voice of the Universe, the soul of creation, the fire that will light the way to a better future. We are one." ~G'kar

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Burninator View Post
    Hey, it could be worse -- we could have a lot of early game drama over a shoddy 50% wheat cap!

    Although given the quality of the drama currently, I have to say, that drama was positively excellent by comparison, both in terms of hilarity and good fun.
    Yeah, at least that was actually dramatic and wasn't just "you're a liar! Nuh uh you are!"
    Quote Originally Posted by mbstokem View Post
    o ya. i hope he goes back to it. i liked my name being in some1's sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbstokem View Post
    Yeah, at least that was actually dramatic and wasn't just "you're a liar! Nuh uh you are!"
    ROFL, yeah, I'm not going to lie -- I've stopped reading those exchanges .

    EDIT:
    I am going to lie.

    TB for biggest liar on S1 P&D.

    Here's the lie:
    I am not a dargon.

    ^^ And ANOTHER lie by TB!
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